Saturday, September 28, 2019
Always the same
I bumped into this while looking for info on an old gadget called the Hipp Chronoscope. It seemed like an interesting 'model' for my latest set of Lost Gadgets, and I was trying to find good diagrams and pics. After bumping into this, I decided to skip the Chronoscope. Every tool can be used for good or evil, but this one seems to have been primarily evil.
This 1922 experiment shows several things.
(1) "Social" "science" has always been about cold mechanical torture and evil. The CIA torture chambers, planned and staffed by academic "social" "scientists", are nothing new. The Milgram experiment, which was recently "ameliorated", was nothing special or unusual.
(2) "Social" "science" has always tried to avoid #desistance and keep "both" "sides" playing the deadly game.
(3) Africans have a stronger moral sense than Euros. (As I've been observing for a long time.)
Relevant parts of the text:
He #desisted, which was unthinkable. "He HAD TO be bribed". Keeping the experiment going was an automatic necessity, and all participants HAD TO remain involved. Morality and scruples HAD TO give way before the juggernaut of "science".
And what is the "scientific" question here? The purpose of the experiment? We didn't need experiments to prove that people learn to avoid pain. We needed experiments to REFINE AND PERFECT OUR TORTURE TECHNIQUES.
I bumped into this while looking for info on an old gadget called the Hipp Chronoscope. It seemed like an interesting 'model' for my latest set of Lost Gadgets, and I was trying to find good diagrams and pics. After bumping into this, I decided to skip the Chronoscope. Every tool can be used for good or evil, but this one seems to have been primarily evil.
This 1922 experiment shows several things.
(1) "Social" "science" has always been about cold mechanical torture and evil. The CIA torture chambers, planned and staffed by academic "social" "scientists", are nothing new. The Milgram experiment, which was recently "ameliorated", was nothing special or unusual.
(2) "Social" "science" has always tried to avoid #desistance and keep "both" "sides" playing the deadly game.
(3) Africans have a stronger moral sense than Euros. (As I've been observing for a long time.)
Relevant parts of the text:
The Faradic shock was then used. However, this involved a serious difficulty in getting subjects to continue the experiment after the first day. One of them — subject C, the colored janitor — had to be bribed, and even then he would not continue the experiment under any circumstances.The white grad students were mainly concerned with finding ways to cheat. The colored janitor knew the whole pile of shit was wrong. He wanted to keep his job, so he went along for a moment, but his moral sense overcame his fear quickly.
The results follow:
Subject (N.). After eight shocks the subject responded (without the shock) on the ninth trial, saying, "I got away from it." On the next two trials (the 10th and nth) he also responded and laughed. Reactions without the shock then came frequently on the following trials: 13th, 15th ("I am stealing on you here; I did not get it"), 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 21st, 22nd, and successively after that, with the exception of an occasional shock given now and then as punishment when the subject did not react quickly enough.
Subject (C). The colored janitor. (As stated before, this subject after the first shock had to be bribed to continue the experiment.) After 31 trials with the shock the subject reacted five times (on the 32nd, 33rd, 34th, 35th, 36th trials) to the positive stimulus without the shock, saying, "I jump just the same." On the 37th trial he did not respond and was punished (shocked). After that the reactions to the positive stimulus without the shock were frequent, as shown in the accompanying time curve (Figure VI). However, after having obtained the measure of 31 "conditioned reflexes," the subject would under no consideration continue the experiment. We therefore then took 36 conscious discrimination reactions to the hammer and released him.
He #desisted, which was unthinkable. "He HAD TO be bribed". Keeping the experiment going was an automatic necessity, and all participants HAD TO remain involved. Morality and scruples HAD TO give way before the juggernaut of "science".
And what is the "scientific" question here? The purpose of the experiment? We didn't need experiments to prove that people learn to avoid pain. We needed experiments to REFINE AND PERFECT OUR TORTURE TECHNIQUES.
Labels: #DeplorableLivesMatter, #desistance
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